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Sebastian Siemiatkowski

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1197 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Less, for sure.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

No, I think it may very well be even less than that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Yes.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

But listen, again, relationship cannot be replaced.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

We're going to do a show in 2035 and Sam's going to be the only one.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Yep.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

I think that the one thing that's important for us is relationships.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

We have a relationship with merchants, as an example, retailers, and we have those relationships locally.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

So I have people in Portland talking to Nike.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

I have people in China talking to Shein.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

I have people in, you know, in Amsterdam talking to Adyen, et cetera, et cetera.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

So we have over 50 locations where there's people.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

AI is not going to move those jobs like that we need.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

It's very important.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

The relationships with our partners and the same customer service is going to be I'm still going to argue that it's going to be vital to offer a human connection there.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

So those jobs will remain.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

But for the rest,

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

it's gonna be definitely smaller.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

So we're shrinking through natural attrition with about 20% per year.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

It's just people leaving.