Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Like, I was like, how come that went so easy still?

Like, it makes it, oh, yeah, now I know why.

Because usually when a CEO come to the board and say, we're going to do all of these new services, we're going to launch all of this new stuff.

Hence, I need to increase my investment and my cost by $100 million, if it's the size of our company, to be able to do all of this.

But I, at the same point of time, was showing them a budget.

I mean, Klona has been shrinking.

We used to be 6,000 or over 7,000 people, and we're now less than 3,000.

And I didn't ask for a single dime to do all this.

And the reason for that is because I've seen the acceleration of AI, and I know we can ship all these things

on the existing organization.

We've gone from 7,000 people.

We're now below 3,000.

We've shrank 50%.

And the majority of that is just through normal attrition.

Initially, when we had 2020, we did a little bit of layoffs, but that was not that big of a number compared to what has happened since then.

So that was the reason.

It was the reason it was easy for the board to take decisions.

I didn't ask for a single dime in investments.

It's 2030.

How many employees do you have then?