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Sebastian Siemiatkowski

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1197 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

That's probably too extreme.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

0.2 would be very extreme for some of these companies.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

But is it likely they could come down to one or two?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Yes, I think so.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

No, I understand that some people have that opinion.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

I am not.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Because I think one thing is also like, currently, the way I set up and I've already started seeing people doing this differently.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

But one thing is, right now, AI is allowing us to reinvent the wheel all the time, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

So if you come in and say, I want to write this piece of code, somebody else prompted the same AI, the exact same thing somewhere else.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

we're still using tons of server power to generate the exact same code.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Well, people are going to start realizing, why?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Why don't I cache these things?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

If I'm getting the same question, if I'm getting the same, or why don't I use existing open source components and reuse software?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

Like what if software becomes more like Lego pieces that you put together that perfect?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

It's going to be more and more efficient to just like bundle things together.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

And this also means that things like what you're talking about is like production ready, you know, security assured and all these things, they will become more and more standardized building blocks.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

And I think in the future, I'm not sure AI was even going to code that much.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

It's just going to pick some pieces together and stitch them together to come to what you really need, which also actually means less need for compute.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

I think that's to some degree correct.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World | What Revenue Multiple Will Software Companies Trade At? | From 7,000 to 3,000: We Need Less People Than Ever with Sebastian Siemiatkowski

But like, it's funny, the same weekend that this whole Claudebot thing exploded on X, I was actually sitting myself and playing around with a project, which I was just calling Company in a Box.