Sebastian Usher

And that some kind of stability is there, some sense that for Gaza and their people there –

Things have improved.

But who wants to join the stabilization force with the possibility that they might have to face up actually in direct conflict with Hamas or other militants?

Egypt, which has been talked about as being the likeliest leader of it, is hesitant about that.

Turkey was also at this meeting.

They've been playing a part in mediation recently.

Now, they want to, but Israel doesn't want them.

And a critical thing will be the return of the last hostage, that last dead Israeli in Gaza.

But as you say, there are so many issues that still need to be resolved, not least allowing in more aid into Gaza.

Yes, no, there is that.

I mean, the Rafah crossing in the south that has been talked about, you know, being open finally, but that's just for Palestinians, presumably with medical conditions being allowed to leave, Palestinians outside not being allowed back in and aid not coming in.

It is true to say that the aid that would come in itself is coming through another crossing, but it's still nowhere near, as far as aid agencies are saying, what's needed.

So there is a sense from both sides that this process has been drawn out to stop getting into the second phase.

This last Israeli who's left, a police officer, you know, who's dead, he was killed on October the 7th.

There was pressure being put again by Israel just a couple of days ago on the mediators saying that Hamas...

knows where the body is, they need to give the body.

This Israel has been saying throughout that Hamas has been trying to slow the process down in order to be able to rebuild, regroup.

That's true.

But from the Israeli perspective, you could say that the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in no great hurry to move on to that second phase either.

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