Sen. Bernie Sanders

The other thing we could do, young people today find it extremely hard to buy their own home.

Cost of housing is off the charts.

Why aren't we building four or five million units of low-income and affordable housing?

Well, to be fair...

Look, here's where we are right now, and I think it's not been made as clear as it should.

If Trump gets away with what he wants...

We are looking at 15 million people losing their health insurance, and according to studies, John, 50,000 low-income and working-class people dying every year unnecessarily.

You're low-income, you're working-class, you don't have any health, you have a chronic ill, you die.

That's what they're saying.

On top of that, all over the country... You do die anyway.

Just...

But you don't have to die just because you can't get to a doctor.

That is disgusting.

And then on top of that, because of the cuts to the ACA, you're looking at some 20-plus million people seeing a doubling of their premiums at a time when they can't even afford health care right now.

All right, so your point is, is this a good system?

No.

To defend today, yes.

To spend any political capital.

All right, but obviously, obviously.

Right.