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Serhii Plokhy

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1125 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

so-called hybrid warfare in Donbas. But again, unlike Crimea, from what I understand, Russia was not really looking forward to taking possession of Donbas. Donbas was viewed as the way how to influence Ukraine to stop it from drift toward the West.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

so-called hybrid warfare in Donbas. But again, unlike Crimea, from what I understand, Russia was not really looking forward to taking possession of Donbas. Donbas was viewed as the way how to influence Ukraine to stop it from drift toward the West.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

I mentioned that nationalism and principle of nationalism is the principle of making the political borders to coincide with ethnic and cultural borders. And that's how the maps of many East European countries had been drawn in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

I mentioned that nationalism and principle of nationalism is the principle of making the political borders to coincide with ethnic and cultural borders. And that's how the maps of many East European countries had been drawn in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

I mentioned that nationalism and principle of nationalism is the principle of making the political borders to coincide with ethnic and cultural borders. And that's how the maps of many East European countries had been drawn in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

On that principle, Donbas, where the majority constituted by the beginning of the 20th century were Ukrainians, was considered to be Ukrainian and was claimed in the middle of this revolution and revolutionary wars and civil wars by Ukrainian government.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

On that principle, Donbas, where the majority constituted by the beginning of the 20th century were Ukrainians, was considered to be Ukrainian and was claimed in the middle of this revolution and revolutionary wars and civil wars by Ukrainian government.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

On that principle, Donbas, where the majority constituted by the beginning of the 20th century were Ukrainians, was considered to be Ukrainian and was claimed in the middle of this revolution and revolutionary wars and civil wars by Ukrainian government.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

But Donbas became one of the key sites in the Russian Empire of early industrialization, with its mining industry, with its metallurgical industry. So what that meant was that people from other parts of, not Ukraine, but other parts of the Russian Empire congregated there. That's where jobs were. That's how Khrushchev and his family came. came to Donbass.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

But Donbas became one of the key sites in the Russian Empire of early industrialization, with its mining industry, with its metallurgical industry. So what that meant was that people from other parts of, not Ukraine, but other parts of the Russian Empire congregated there. That's where jobs were. That's how Khrushchev and his family came. came to Donbass.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

But Donbas became one of the key sites in the Russian Empire of early industrialization, with its mining industry, with its metallurgical industry. So what that meant was that people from other parts of, not Ukraine, but other parts of the Russian Empire congregated there. That's where jobs were. That's how Khrushchev and his family came. came to Donbass.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

The family of Brezhnev overshoot a little bit. They got to the industrial enterprises in the city of Kamensk near Dnipro, the city that was called Dnipropetrovsk. Those were Russian peasants moving into the area looking for their job. The population became quite mixed. Ukrainians still constituted the majority of the population, but not necessarily in the towns and in the cities.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

The family of Brezhnev overshoot a little bit. They got to the industrial enterprises in the city of Kamensk near Dnipro, the city that was called Dnipropetrovsk. Those were Russian peasants moving into the area looking for their job. The population became quite mixed. Ukrainians still constituted the majority of the population, but not necessarily in the towns and in the cities.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

The family of Brezhnev overshoot a little bit. They got to the industrial enterprises in the city of Kamensk near Dnipro, the city that was called Dnipropetrovsk. Those were Russian peasants moving into the area looking for their job. The population became quite mixed. Ukrainians still constituted the majority of the population, but not necessarily in the towns and in the cities.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

And culturally, the place was becoming more and more Russian as the result of that moment. So, apart from the Crimea, Donbass was the part of Ukraine where the ethnic Russians were the biggest group. They were not the majority, but they were a very, very big and significant group. For example, in the city of Mariupol, that was all but destroyed in the course of the last two years.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

And culturally, the place was becoming more and more Russian as the result of that moment. So, apart from the Crimea, Donbass was the part of Ukraine where the ethnic Russians were the biggest group. They were not the majority, but they were a very, very big and significant group. For example, in the city of Mariupol, that was all but destroyed in the course of the last two years.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

And culturally, the place was becoming more and more Russian as the result of that moment. So, apart from the Crimea, Donbass was the part of Ukraine where the ethnic Russians were the biggest group. They were not the majority, but they were a very, very big and significant group. For example, in the city of Mariupol, that was all but destroyed in the course of the last two years.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

The ethnic Russians constituted over 40% of the population, right? So that's not exactly part of Donbass, but that gives you a general idea. Now, the story of Donbass and what happened now is multidimensional, and this ethnic composition is just one part of the story. Another very important part of the story is economy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

The ethnic Russians constituted over 40% of the population, right? So that's not exactly part of Donbass, but that gives you a general idea. Now, the story of Donbass and what happened now is multidimensional, and this ethnic composition is just one part of the story. Another very important part of the story is economy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#415 โ€“ Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

The ethnic Russians constituted over 40% of the population, right? So that's not exactly part of Donbass, but that gives you a general idea. Now, the story of Donbass and what happened now is multidimensional, and this ethnic composition is just one part of the story. Another very important part of the story is economy.