Seth Kahan

I never would have thought about a partnership with Harvard Medical School. So you try and pick a vision, and for us, it was stigma-free United States. That everybody's invested in because you're going to ask them to do work and you're not going to pay them for the work. It has to feel like they're moving the needle on their own goals, their own mission. So that's the first step.

I never would have thought about a partnership with Harvard Medical School. So you try and pick a vision, and for us, it was stigma-free United States. That everybody's invested in because you're going to ask them to do work and you're not going to pay them for the work. It has to feel like they're moving the needle on their own goals, their own mission. So that's the first step.

Then you involve them in creating a national strategy. So I got all these leaders together as they delegated staff. We built out how are we going to do this? And then we have another event. that's open to even more people. We have 300 people at this event. And we ask them to kick the tires. Look at our strategy. What's weak? Tell us where we're going to fail before we start executing it.

Then you involve them in creating a national strategy. So I got all these leaders together as they delegated staff. We built out how are we going to do this? And then we have another event. that's open to even more people. We have 300 people at this event. And we ask them to kick the tires. Look at our strategy. What's weak? Tell us where we're going to fail before we start executing it.

Then you involve them in creating a national strategy. So I got all these leaders together as they delegated staff. We built out how are we going to do this? And then we have another event. that's open to even more people. We have 300 people at this event. And we ask them to kick the tires. Look at our strategy. What's weak? Tell us where we're going to fail before we start executing it.

And of course, we're enrolling people in that process too, because if they're involved in criticizing our strategy, then maybe they'll be interested in implementing the improved version. And that's what happens. So it's very participatory, kind of like kneading bread. You're always folding people back into it.

And of course, we're enrolling people in that process too, because if they're involved in criticizing our strategy, then maybe they'll be interested in implementing the improved version. And that's what happens. So it's very participatory, kind of like kneading bread. You're always folding people back into it.

And of course, we're enrolling people in that process too, because if they're involved in criticizing our strategy, then maybe they'll be interested in implementing the improved version. And that's what happens. So it's very participatory, kind of like kneading bread. You're always folding people back into it.

It can be a challenge for some organizations because they want to move fast and they want to do that by telling other people what to do. And that drops participation. So you need to increase participation. That's the key.

It can be a challenge for some organizations because they want to move fast and they want to do that by telling other people what to do. And that drops participation. So you need to increase participation. That's the key.

It can be a challenge for some organizations because they want to move fast and they want to do that by telling other people what to do. And that drops participation. So you need to increase participation. That's the key.

Well, with the stigma initiative, I found this book, which I will read to you. This is available for free over the web. It's from the National Academies, and it's called Ending Discrimination Against People with Mental and Substance Use Disorders, published in 2016. And it said it's going to take about 20 years to do this. I got the timeline from this book.

Well, with the stigma initiative, I found this book, which I will read to you. This is available for free over the web. It's from the National Academies, and it's called Ending Discrimination Against People with Mental and Substance Use Disorders, published in 2016. And it said it's going to take about 20 years to do this. I got the timeline from this book.

Well, with the stigma initiative, I found this book, which I will read to you. This is available for free over the web. It's from the National Academies, and it's called Ending Discrimination Against People with Mental and Substance Use Disorders, published in 2016. And it said it's going to take about 20 years to do this. I got the timeline from this book.

But not all grand challenges are the same. So other grand challenges have different timelines. But for this one, we're talking about legislative change and changing the minds of Americans all over the place. People who are informed, people who are not informed, people who are highly educated, people who have no education, people who live in cities, people who live on farms.

But not all grand challenges are the same. So other grand challenges have different timelines. But for this one, we're talking about legislative change and changing the minds of Americans all over the place. People who are informed, people who are not informed, people who are highly educated, people who have no education, people who live in cities, people who live on farms.

But not all grand challenges are the same. So other grand challenges have different timelines. But for this one, we're talking about legislative change and changing the minds of Americans all over the place. People who are informed, people who are not informed, people who are highly educated, people who have no education, people who live in cities, people who live on farms.

I mean, it's like you got to reach everybody. Oh, it's a long term project. So we're shooting at 20 years and we're about four years into it.

I mean, it's like you got to reach everybody. Oh, it's a long term project. So we're shooting at 20 years and we're about four years into it.

I mean, it's like you got to reach everybody. Oh, it's a long term project. So we're shooting at 20 years and we're about four years into it.