Shane Jones

believes to be the case.

But I think that Kiwis, certainly those who are big users of diesel, should have a lot of confidence that we've moved forward.

We believe that we've covered off excess risk and we're going to have it on the country, stored up at Marsden Point.

and despite the best efforts of Labour to say they would have done differently, they didn't, and they are now looking at me enviously.

Oh, well, look, I'm not going to cut across him in terms of how he's running his business.

I'm here to provide, along with Nicola...

a level of proactive leadership.

If we do need a buffer, we'll take advice from our officials, not only our professional advisors, MBIE and the Ministry of Transport.

And there's a great deal to be said because over time, the fuel companies are going to have to store more in-country anyhow.

And we were very disappointed.

The fuel companies promised back in 2018 and 19 out at Woody near the Auckland airport that they'd bang together another tank.

Of course, jack has happened.

And if necessary, we'll move in that direction.

But we're not going to do it in any adventurous way.

We'll take the best quality of advice.

It's a little bit like the virtual fuel options that the government still has.

When we looked into it, they are executable, but they're devilishly complicated.

And there are other options because of the way in which the oil industry is continuing to supply New Zealand.

I mean, demand is being destroyed by price.

I don't care how much criticism we get.