Shane Ross

And he was a great pal of the masses, as you probably know.

And that's why he was appointed.

In fact, Eamon Andrews was the first one.

But there was no relation of those Andrews's.

But Todd was appointed because Eamon wasn't quite sound enough on the political issue.

And he was showing signs of independence.

And he put Todd in really to do the bidding of the government at the time.

He had that being said, but that's what he did.

Yeah, that's right.

I mean, Gabe Byrne was, you'd run him a pretty close second bat, okay, at the moment, and you've got a long way to go.

But he was the kind of the foundation stone.

broadcasting in television broadcasting anyway at that time and he was but he was rebellious he was extraordinary because and to cover a lot of things about him in the book which people don't know about and which i don't want to say because they won't read it if i tell it on the yeah sure but i mean todd andrews had a get rid of that effort burn that's right he said get rid he said get rid of that effort

He said that to the director general at the time.

And the director general said to just let him go away.

And he went off on some other kind of hobby or something.

But Andrews was very outspoken.

Yeah, I think there was a general kind of established media scare at the time that various people were sleepers and members of the Workers' Party and they are not confessing it.

And that was true.

That did happen as well.

So there was a kind of group of people there who were very active politically and for the Workers' Party and a couple of them were members of the Workers' Party at the same time, which they shouldn't have been.