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Shankar Vedantam

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Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

They were titled Keeping Secrets and Coming Clean.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Today, Leslie returns to the show to respond to listener comments and stories about the costs of keeping secrets.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Leslie John, welcome back to Hidden Brain.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Leslie, in our interactions with other people, we spend a lot of time weighing how much of ourselves to share with them.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Why is it that so many of us avoid revealing ourselves to others?

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

In your research, Leslie, you found that keeping a secret can negatively impact our physical and mental health.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Describe for me very briefly some of these costs.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Many secrets that we keep often center on regrets that we have, maybe a time that we lied or stole or cheated someone.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Here's a message we received from a listener named Claire.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

So Leslie, clearly this secret was a much bigger deal for Claire than it was for her parents and her friend.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

What's interesting is that the story echoed what we've heard from several other listeners.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

The distress that we feel about our secrets is often wildly disproportionate to the reactions of others, including, you know, our quote-unquote victims.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Why is it that our secrets have this outsized impact on us?

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

I'm wondering if the fact that Claire kept her secret for so long in some ways amplified it in her mind.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

In other words, the longer she kept it, the more she is thinking about it, the more she's ruminating about it, and the bigger it gets in her mind.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

But of course, it's not getting bigger in anyone else's mind.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Right, right.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

So there are secrets that have to do with what we've done, but there are also secrets that get at who we are.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

Here is listener Emma.

Hidden Brain
The Cowboy Philosopher

So one thing that strikes me about Emma's story, Leslie, is that this is not about something that she did, but about who she is.