Shanna H. Swan

I mean, all of East Asia is very, very low.

Absolutely.

And Japan is getting there and, you know, all of that Southeast Asia.

And –

So when there's a lot of articles about this, a lot of editorials, a lot of articles, and they make me so, Joe, they make me so mad because they say correctly that having a child at an older age

will do this to some extent.

Not wanting to have children, as many children will do this to some extent, but they never mention toxics.

And so I've written editorials saying, hey, guys, we're not alone on this planet.

And we're not the only species that's declining in number.

And then if you look at the curve of the number of species that are declining and the rate of decline of human fertility, they're parallel.

It's all about 1% per year.

And we know they're exposed, these other species.

You showed it.

Those fish in that water are exposed and animals on the periphery.

So I would love for everybody, when they look at these numbers of declining fertility, consider that it's not all choice.

Animals are not choosing to have their children later or to delay childbearing, right?

Right.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Yeah.