Shanna H. Swan

Yay!

A phase two would mail you back another kit.

You take your urine again, and that's it.

That's right.

That's right.

So you would be doing part of what the couples in the intervention did.

The couples in the intervention also were infertile.

And so we're not going to touch your fertility question, but they also, the men collected sperm.

And we can do that if you want, but I don't think you, you know, you may not want to talk about that on your phone.

But that's what we did in the intervention.

So we, in the intervention, we found, I'll just, this is what the intervention was.

There's a company called Fellow, which has grown out of UCSF.

And they're very big now.

I think they have like 200,000 men in their files who have had their semen tested.

And at the time they have their semen tested, they're asked, could we recontact you for research?

That's one important question.

And they're asked, why did you want your sperm tested?

And if they say because we're infertile or subfertile or we're worrying about our fertility, we ask or they ask, how long has it been that you've been having this problem with fertility?

And if it's more than 12 months, then they're technically infertile, right?

So if they said they would agree to be recontacted and they were infertile, they were potentially eligible for this intervention.