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Shannon Bond

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The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Right. So this has come after, you know, actually quite a bit of mystery through a lawsuit where the court was asking the government over and over again because they said, well, you know, Musk is not in charge of the U.S. Doge service, which is part of the office of the president that has been renamed from the U.S. Digital Service. And they were like, OK, great. Who is?

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

And then the government lawyers were like, well, we don't know. We can't tell you. This dragged on for a couple of days, which kind of, you know, pretty unprecedented to just not be able to say who is actually running this. I'm sure judges love that. Yeah. As you can imagine, the judge was not amused.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

And then the government lawyers were like, well, we don't know. We can't tell you. This dragged on for a couple of days, which kind of, you know, pretty unprecedented to just not be able to say who is actually running this. I'm sure judges love that. Yeah. As you can imagine, the judge was not amused.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

And then the government lawyers were like, well, we don't know. We can't tell you. This dragged on for a couple of days, which kind of, you know, pretty unprecedented to just not be able to say who is actually running this. I'm sure judges love that. Yeah. As you can imagine, the judge was not amused.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

So the White House has announced that Amy Gleason is, in fact, the acting administrator of the Doge service. She is somebody who is a veteran of the U.S. digital service. She's a former health care investment executive. You know, we don't know a lot about her. We don't really know a lot about what her actual kind of acting role is.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

So the White House has announced that Amy Gleason is, in fact, the acting administrator of the Doge service. She is somebody who is a veteran of the U.S. digital service. She's a former health care investment executive. You know, we don't know a lot about her. We don't really know a lot about what her actual kind of acting role is.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

So the White House has announced that Amy Gleason is, in fact, the acting administrator of the Doge service. She is somebody who is a veteran of the U.S. digital service. She's a former health care investment executive. You know, we don't know a lot about her. We don't really know a lot about what her actual kind of acting role is.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

You know, what does it mean, again, for her to be the acting administrator when clearly, effectively, you know, Musk is calling the shots here? But there is a name now. And I'm sure that that will, like, raise a whole new set of court challenges over, you know, what are the directives that Musk is issuing? You know, where does that maybe trample on her territory?

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

You know, what does it mean, again, for her to be the acting administrator when clearly, effectively, you know, Musk is calling the shots here? But there is a name now. And I'm sure that that will, like, raise a whole new set of court challenges over, you know, what are the directives that Musk is issuing? You know, where does that maybe trample on her territory?

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

You know, what does it mean, again, for her to be the acting administrator when clearly, effectively, you know, Musk is calling the shots here? But there is a name now. And I'm sure that that will, like, raise a whole new set of court challenges over, you know, what are the directives that Musk is issuing? You know, where does that maybe trample on her territory?

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

But again, like, you know, at the end of the day, the office of the president of the White House, which is what the Doge service is under, you know, is separate from these agencies. Yes. The president can issue executive orders saying โ€“ calling on agencies to prepare for reductions in force, which it has done. The White House itself like can't just go and fire people at agencies.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

But again, like, you know, at the end of the day, the office of the president of the White House, which is what the Doge service is under, you know, is separate from these agencies. Yes. The president can issue executive orders saying โ€“ calling on agencies to prepare for reductions in force, which it has done. The White House itself like can't just go and fire people at agencies.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

But again, like, you know, at the end of the day, the office of the president of the White House, which is what the Doge service is under, you know, is separate from these agencies. Yes. The president can issue executive orders saying โ€“ calling on agencies to prepare for reductions in force, which it has done. The White House itself like can't just go and fire people at agencies.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

OPM can't go and fire people at agencies. Like the agencies themselves are doing this. And so that's again where like the kind of what is the chain of command here I think is murky and is why this is being opened up to all of this questioning legally and just practically by the people having to carry out this mission.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

OPM can't go and fire people at agencies. Like the agencies themselves are doing this. And so that's again where like the kind of what is the chain of command here I think is murky and is why this is being opened up to all of this questioning legally and just practically by the people having to carry out this mission.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

OPM can't go and fire people at agencies. Like the agencies themselves are doing this. And so that's again where like the kind of what is the chain of command here I think is murky and is why this is being opened up to all of this questioning legally and just practically by the people having to carry out this mission.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

I think the thing I would say is, you know, what additional pushback is there sort of from inside the government and especially at the cabinet level? We know that Musk is going to be sitting in on Trump's cabinet meeting today. You know, would love to be a fly on the wall in that room, like what the dynamic is like.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

I think the thing I would say is, you know, what additional pushback is there sort of from inside the government and especially at the cabinet level? We know that Musk is going to be sitting in on Trump's cabinet meeting today. You know, would love to be a fly on the wall in that room, like what the dynamic is like.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

I think the thing I would say is, you know, what additional pushback is there sort of from inside the government and especially at the cabinet level? We know that Musk is going to be sitting in on Trump's cabinet meeting today. You know, would love to be a fly on the wall in that room, like what the dynamic is like.

The NPR Politics Podcast
How DOGE Cuts Are Impacting Federal Workers

Because, you know, again, I think, you know, it's been really notable, particularly that some of the most powerful cabinet secretaries, you know, the head of agencies that are, you know, very critical to national security are the ones who have kind of come out most aggressively in sort of marking their own territory here.