Shannon Gove

Yeah, we did around then and a touch after.

But yeah, it's an interesting thing to have.

Our staff is so important to us and we want them to be as part of the journey as what we are.

And so we decided to set it up then.

And I guess the advice or the thought was it's probably easier to do it then compared to later down the line where people may have to sell shares to create it and it just might get a little messy.

And I think

Future investors want to see that to be able to bring good people in.

So you're just prepping yourself for the future.

We weren't in this for two years.

We're in this for the long run.

So we thought we may as well set it up early.

Yeah.

And what's the team size today?

How many people?

We're around 23 now.

So we've significantly bolstered our team in the last six to nine months.

Certainly probably not what we were expecting at the start of this year with COVID and how it's lingered on in particular this year, and especially where we are in Asia Pacific.

But yeah, 2023 now.

Very cool.

And how many engineers?