Shannon Lee Simmons

backup and I have not done shopping like that where I couldn't just go over by five bucks or I couldn't just go over if I wanted to or just grab that thing because I have a credit card on me and I couldn't even remember the last time and it was so refreshing to remind us that we have to make trade-offs and you

can't ever make the same kind of trade-offs when you have access to credit because there's no ceiling in that moment.

Our cashless society is leading to us being so physically removed from our money.

And then we spend it easier because we're not emotionally attached to it in the same way.

Yes.

Yes, it's a life skill that I think we're losing touch with.

And especially now with delivered groceries and delivery shopping, we just don't see the amount of kids being dragged around for errands anymore because people are like getting it on Amazon and it arrives the next day.

So the kids aren't even seeing the transaction happening.

So there's this lack of awareness of what things cost.

It's really, really hard for all of us to budget with technology the way that it's set up.

It is set up to take the money from us as easy as possible.

That's what it's set up to do.

Yeah, I think that's human.

In evolution, you're supposed to compare yourself.

It was a safety thing to make sure you don't fall behind.

There's group herd mentality where if I'm part of this, I'll survive.

I don't want to do that.

And now in modern life, falling behind looks like, I don't think it's a petty thing.

I don't think it's about having the nicest car.

It's more about not feeling like you fit in with the community that you're supposed to fit in with.