Shannon Lee Simmons

And what is the impact of that on your social well-being and your self-worth and your kid's

It's not about being the best for the best.

And I think that we can be in that judgy, shamey place.

But I really think that what it's done is morphed what we all think is normal.

And then all of us are just trying to keep up with what we think is normal.

And that's the fundamental problem with it.

And it's never going to be enough.

To your point, we are wired to think that there's never going to be enough because that's how we survived was like the squirrel who saved all summer versus the grasshopper or sorry, the ant who saved all summer versus the grasshopper.

The home one's tricky because there are economic benefits to it as well.

So it is perceived in the sense of a milestone.

Like I call it the life checklist.

If you don't do it, then somehow you haven't achieved something in life.

I really think this impacts young people in their 20s and 30s.

People that I work with that rent well into their 40s and 50s, they're over it.

They're like, hey, I'm reaping all the benefits at this point.

And like, look at my stacked portfolio.

But I think that that perspective comes with time and wisdom and proof that it worked and everything's okay for you.

And if you're younger, if you don't have that lived experience of wisdom of this is all good, people can tell you that, but it's hard to imagine it.

I think that the impact of not hitting those milestones or being worried that you're not going to hit those milestones adds to like a generalized sense of anxiety when it comes to our money.

And you can see that in the younger generations of people.