Sharay Punisher Hayes

So these guys say, well, look, I can't keep up, but if I find the guys to keep her happy, but it's under my control, she's happy, and then I don't have to worry about the divorce aspect or whatever.

And then if this guy has some sort of fetish where he can possibly get off or have some enjoyment, then it's a win-win.

Yeah, like how?

Yeah, how at some point it's going to be nothing he can do.

Yeah, so if he actually loves her and cares about her, then he's going to create some sort of consent just in a place where he doesn't feel threatened.

I'm still trying to figure that out.

It definitely didn't help.

I think it hurt me as an individual.

Really?

Yeah, as an individual.

And a lot of it could be in my mind, right?

Because...

For the most part, being involved in this, I would say I landed on my feet where from a public opinion, from being involved in this and being considered an escort prostitute or whatever, people don't look at me crazy, right?

But there's still a vast majority of people who see the victim experience of Cassie.

And just my involvement in the period is a black eye.

Because the trial wasn't televised.

A lot of people really are basing their facts off of a report they had on social media.

So I'll have a woman from time to time send me a nasty message saying, oh my God, how could you urinate on Cassie?

And it's like, I'm not the guy who, that's the other guy.

you know what I'm saying like but I'm getting this you get mixed up in it yeah I get mixed up in it so a lot of my negativity comes from being mixed up in it so if you got a group of 20 ladies and they say hey look we want to hire this guy let's get the Punisher guy right 18 of them could be on board but then there's just got to be two like oh my god you're going to hire him or whatever and they'll