Shawn Freeman

Um, but then I finally decided, you know, you can't act like that if that's unless you want to be that forever.

Right.

So my rates were competitive with.

uh, other companies out there that had 20 people.

So, you know, and, and now if looking back that, you know, if I, if I had set my rates, you know, half of what they were billing, I couldn't change that.

And my business wouldn't have grown to where it is now.

I really like A Leader Who Has No Title by Robin Sharma.

There's a couple.

There's one guy named Chris Day.

He's in the same space.

Yeah, Chris Day.

He's in the same space as me.

He started Fully Managed, and now he's on a startup, a SaaS program called IT Glue.

And then the other guy, Dan Price, Gravity Payments, he's doing some pretty cool wage equality stuff down in Seattle.

Uh, actually I, I really love Slack and Google apps.

I'm not sure which I love more between the two.

I run my business.

There's the dog.

You're just talking about him.

I wish I would have had the ambition to quit my job faster and get going.