Shawn Johnson East

Does that make sense?

Oh, do we have the same dogs?

Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about.

No, I'm kidding.

We don't have the same troopers.

We have two golden troopers, Nash and Oakley.

Also, I have like a lighter note, a bit darker.

That's why we wrote the book.

Culture is very odd right now where I feel like culture is trying to teach everybody that that's not normal.

Committing and hardship.

People, I feel like in today's culture, keep preaching this idea of if you commit to something, then it shouldn't be hard.

And if it's not hard, you know, you have the right, you chose the right thing.

And it's so opposite of that.

I think no matter what you choose it's going to be very difficult.

But the longer you stay committed to it the more joyful and the more fruitful it will be.

I mean, I fell in love with gymnastics at the age of three, and it was so hard.

And I even tried quitting multiple times, and I would quit for a week, and I'd be like, you know what?

I really like it, and I really want to go back.

But every time I would push through something, it would be more joyful.

And I just think culture's got it wrong, and it's frustrating to witness.