Shawn Ryan

So like, I like the fact that there's some little slice of research that's so far away from replication, but like everybody can be a part of it and it's not like what country you're in.

And so when I see things like about like, like China funding an experiment, it's like, you know, someone top down could just say, we're going to fund it.

Hey, it's an experiment.

And honestly,

maybe it's a good thing if they're spending money on trying to be better at like research for just the, like the type of research that's just for the clout and not for like the military tech or something like that.

Like make them, let them build clouters, right?

But I do think that the pipeline of transferable technology is much slower than it is actually building a technology, right?

So, I mean, my attitude is I could see that there is, and this is type of thing too.

I think that, you know,

very strong top-down governance can do, and also different relaxations of IP laws.

There's a power to that that you can see Europe maybe over-regulating things compared to USAI.

So I like to think that as we are right now, and I still think it's more feasible to say that the research that I do is so much less about the practical applications and the technology for these space specs detectors.

I still think that the European Space Agency, one LISA, or whatever the name is going to be,

that the U.S.

is a part of will outperform this particular one I think that you were referring to, Tianjin or something.

But I think it's great that if they cared about it, they would fund it, versus you have a hard time sometimes convincing the American taxpayer that this is worth funding.

We are ahead, yeah.

But I think that, again, it's what do you want to be ahead on?

Isn't it great that, like, they spend their money on the things that we don't value doing eventually?

You know, type of thing.