Shawn Ryan

If there's a reason why we don't value doing it, maybe it's great that they're doing it.

Oh, I just think that they have, like, for example, there's a lot of... I'm not sure if it's a good term.

So...

Again, these could be like, you know, different people have different, I mean, I don't know what level you want to consider it as a regime versus a person or like, but like there's a like faculty member at Harvard or like it was there who has a lot of influence in China, which is great because then he can have research centers and he can hire people who wouldn't get jobs in America.

So I think what I'm saying is that in America, it's like, oh, we only want the top person to get a job or these elite things.

And we can get them from all over the world.

And that's what we typically do.

And then their route is like, there's a lot of awesome people that are never going to get a job in the US system.

We can hire them there.

And it sometimes works.

But also right now, it's still very isolating.

The US would choose not to do that.

We don't want to just hire a bunch of more faculty.

But then once we've made that choice, they're optimizing.

Given that constraint, what can they do that's valuable?

And I think that then there's a reason why we made our choice, right?

And that still has an effect of everybody that I know.

It's really hard in India and China, I think, to break out of those systems unless you happen to have an advisor or someone you knew who was in the US system, which is insane.

I mean, I feel bad for the researchers.

It's just like, it's so sociological in some sense.