Shawn Ryan

They can describe the mechanics of it, but they can't really ever put you inside a moment that you have to inhabit to truly own that experience.

And so...

watching it and then living it was a whole different reality.

But then it's nice to have people you can check in with and say, hey, okay, so this happened with the thing, and then I saw how you dealt with that, and then any recommendations, any ideas.

But even the advice sometimes, it's well-intentioned, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be useful sometimes.

And I don't mean that dismissively, just that, you know, giving people advice for things that they have to experience.

Yeah, doesn't work.

Is that making sense?

Sure.

It's pretty close to a waste of time.

That's brilliant.

But isn't it interesting?

In the book, there's those early examples of that he was the voice of advice that I would seek.

He was the guy that I would go to.

And...

You know, the thing that happened with the Karate Kid, the thing that happened with that early MGM deal.

And he was the guy I would go to.

And then, of course, you know, when it when it came to Platoon and he advised against that as well is when I finally told him, I said, I got to I got to just I got I got to roll the dice on this one.

Yeah, I mean, it's not the worst advice in the world if you just break it down just into the credo that he was, you know, into just the noble essence of what he was trying to get me to do.

To pursue, you know, or to recognize, you know.