Shawn Ryan

But I was with somebody, and I said, hey, what about her?

She looks pretty smart.

She looks like she knows what she's doing.

Maybe she'll do the interview.

I mean, literally, it was like that.

No research, nothing.

Didn't know her backstory.

So she gets just yanked into this thing, you know?

And then...

I yeah, she she was like just front and center for that thing.

Yeah, no, I think that's all face value.

I think that's all face value with, because I was in the room with them watching both of their reactions to the rough cut and they couldn't have been more excited or passionate about it or celebrating it more.

And dad was just like, I'm in this, I'm already in this, start to finish.

And Amelia was like, geez, I don't know what I could possibly contribute beyond what Charlie's already doing.

And I just... I genuinely think, like, they didn't want to get in the way or try to tell my stories through their POV, even though that's sometimes, you know, a... That's part of how documentaries get to different parts of stories, and that's a device that they do lean into.

But no, I... Because I think...

We started this about two years ago.

So I was, at that point, clean almost six years.

And so they knew that I was committed to this thing.

And you guys are good.