Shawn Ryan

I mean, I think that's... It's just a, it's a fake man.

It's kind of, you know, the way I would describe it.

And then real masculinity, I think, is...

you are comfortable with your masculinity, so you don't need to over-embellish it, and it's there when you need to pull it out.

You don't have to display it 24 hours a day, let everybody know how fucking tough you are.

People will figure that out on their own.

That's kind of how I would put it.

Is it true that the stoic silent type is the highest risk pattern for relationship breakdown?

Highest risk pattern for relationship breakdown.

No.

I have that a lot of women who are in a relationship with somebody like this wind up just going through the motions if they don't leave.

Mm-hmm.

And so...

How do I say it?

For somebody that's in, for the male that's in that relationship, for the high performer that's in that relationship and his wife or his significant other, or her wife, or her husband, or whatever, the partner, how can you tell if your significant other is just going through the motions?

Interesting.

I mean, also though, just to kind of counter that a little bit earlier, you know, we were talking about the fear of asking what you want and how, just how high of a bar that is alone to get over.

And so if you're, if you're with somebody that's going through the motions that is also scared to ask what they want or they never have before, are there any other signals?

Okay.

And how should that person approach to fix the problem?