Shawn Ryan

And I just pivoted into like, let me major in physics.

Cause yeah,

Yeah, but it wasn't, I mean, probably it's, lots of kids do internships.

It was probably because of the plane and stuff like that, and these connections that I was maybe considered as a freshman or like younger than maybe other people would have.

Between, I hope I'm right, but between freshman and the sophomore year, if I'm not remembering.

The little interpreter thing?

But I wasn't very entrepreneurial.

I don't have any companies.

Lots of MIT kids have companies.

But I hope the spirit is there for the wrong application.

But when I was at Boeing, I probably... And this is the type of mistake that I would make often is you make awesome mentors that you want to learn something from, but sometimes you want to not just literally take their advice.

And so I think that my family and I, we accidentally would...

work for the person that gave you that introduction rather than thinking about, okay, where else at Boeing would I rather be necessarily?

So I ended up in this arm where they were doing some cool R&D for a project that didn't feel like it was ever going to be built by Boeing because it was kind of a McDonnell Douglas acquired branch of the company.

And that disillusioned me a little bit, not because it should have, but because it's just like,

Like engineering isn't always the same thing or academic engineering isn't always the same thing as like building something.

And I think that I thought it would be closer to like move fast, break things, do cool things.

And I think if I had seen any military side of Boeing, it would be a very different experience.

But I was kind of just like, you know, sometimes the technology of within a given field isn't the thing that then advances that field.

And so, and again, because of these stupid reasons of like a bunch of like we like not knowing enough about physics to realize that isn't the right route.