Shawn Ryan

So I think if I want to say that physics covers everything, then I probably do want to have the observer be part of the system.

But I definitely have friends who are definitely not religious or anything like that and still kind of call that observer thing into question.

I just don't know because again, I guess I don't like open systems.

I don't know from the point of view of what are we doing as a theory.

But

So yeah, there's fun questions that are related to this in the sense of like, who am I versus like, and is it the same thing as, yeah, I think how active the observer is or something like that.

I still probably am biased to not including that, but maybe that's dumb.

That could easily be dumb.

No, no, because like, oh, she, sorry, I'm not good at,

Neither of us are good at debating.

She definitely sees what I do as a variant of religion and I'm like, nah.

But I also, it's very easy because I think we're so close to like end up going too far with questioning this stuff.

She came from Cuba when she was a kid and they weren't allowed to be religious there.

And so I think that, you know, it means a lot more to her partially because of that.

But also, I mean, it gives her like a very sense of like guidance in the family life and things like that.

I mean, it means so much to her, right?

No, and that's the thing.

I personally view, like, attention with the, like, dogmatic aspects of, like, that you know the answer.

Like, I mean, what I love about physics is that, you know, there is a sense in which, like, the... Even though, first of all, like, the level at which I actually understand these things is so silly and whatever.

But there's a sense about science that if it's done right and honestly...