Shawn Ryan

Israel's a democracy.

The Israelis, you know, they speak English.

They sound like us.

I've dealt with the Israelis quite a bit.

Like, they're pretty pleasant to deal with.

They're easy to deal with.

I mean, because a lot of them are educated in America.

It's easy to get complacent around the Israelis because, like, they don't have that foreign feel.

And so they do a good job of selling, hey, we have the same interests here, man.

We're just, we're the same, same.

So a lot of it is financial.

You have a spiritual component to it.

And then you also have the Israelis basically, by providing us with a lot of intelligence and potential access, even though I think a lot of that is to inform us, is to influence us rather than inform.

Well, I mean, it depends on what manner of intelligence it is.

But stuff that we get, and you know this from your past life, when we get information, especially from like a foreign liaison service, like it always has that caveat, like could be used to influence and inform, so everyone knows what they're reading.

If you want to lean heavily on the informed side and you're a partner of ours that has access to senior decision makers, you bypass the intel guys because they're going to check your stuff.

They're going to put it through a vetting process.

They're going to put it through analytical tradecraft.

If you want to short circuit that, then you go directly to key decision makers and you say, hey, I've got some intel for you.

It hasn't gone through the intel channels.