Shawn Ryan

So again, I think the thing that it will mean is, once I understand it better, that there's some types of things you do or don't want to talk about within the bulk space-time.

But I do think, like, I care about physics not because, I mean, you land on this one little corner of it that you get to play with.

And it's somehow the best bet for you because it uses the things that you know.

But, like, it always frustrated me, like, how hard it would be to jump between different fields.

Because you, like, imagine if you have no experiment culling different parts of the research canon.

It's just going to get harder and harder when there's more alternate attempts to something.

And I don't know enough about loop point of gravity to tell them why they're wrong.

And I'm just basically vouching because I trust one other person's opinion who might have looked at it.

And so it's this funny thing where

like there's just the kind of the output of other people that are also really smart, it's hard to internalize and compress.

So I like this notion of being able to think about taking a step back and saying like, we value physics for this type of reason of like finding these deep questions, trying to like see that nature seems to be like, have this highly compressed description.

How would you go about finding it?

Like, can we view ourselves as instead of like individual people who maybe do a great thing and they could call themselves an Einstein or whatever, that instead of it, like we're responsible for this legacy, we're custodians of this canon.

Are there tools now that we have that we can be like help curate and like condense it more systematically?

And I think that that's an exciting time for me because I love that notion of, you know, don't just stay in my little corner.

Like, how would I get out of that corner?

First of all, personally, but then how is it also like you view that venture as something super valuable, I think.

and closer to these kinds of like deeper questions.

But I don't think I think about the deep questions enough because I'm in the computations because that's the thing where the intuition comes from and then you just get stuck philosophizing if you're not, if you're in the, you're too far away from it.

Oh, I think that it's... Bang theory.