Shawn Ryan

I wanted to start with the 50-year mortgage.

But since we're going down this road, I am...

I want to have this conversation because it sounds like you think that the American dream is drying up.

Yeah.

I don't think that.

I think that the American dream is alive and well, but you have to figure out what sector you're going to grow that in.

And so let me give you an example.

Okay.

We see all these...

illegals come in here and they take up all of the trades.

They're the plumbers, they're the carpenters, they're the electricians, they're the lawn care, they're everything.

They do all of it.

And you see these guys and they come in this town and I've hired them.

I mean, there's not really a market.

You have to hire them.

Right, exactly.

And I remember in my old studio,

that guy came in and built that, studded that entire studio out on Easter Sunday.

I couldn't get, I could not get an American to get in there and do it.

They wouldn't even give me a price because it was too small of a project for them.