Shay Banon

So that was like running through my head when I wrote it. Yes.

So that was like running through my head when I wrote it. Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, definitely. I sat down and wrote that blog post I care about. You know, it's like, you know, maybe some people made fun on Twitter on this, like, why is he doing these references or whatever? But, you know, it's like one of the things that I love about open source is that we're quirky. And we're like adding some fun to the stuff that we're doing. And it gets interesting.

No, definitely. I sat down and wrote that blog post I care about. You know, it's like, you know, maybe some people made fun on Twitter on this, like, why is he doing these references or whatever? But, you know, it's like one of the things that I love about open source is that we're quirky. And we're like adding some fun to the stuff that we're doing. And it gets interesting.

And it's like, that's the thing that I love doing in IRC or Slack or GitHub or doesn't matter. SourceForge, you know, it's like all of these things. We had fun building software. And, you know, it's like that's the thing that I cherish a lot. And this is part of it. At least that's how I read it.

And it's like, that's the thing that I love doing in IRC or Slack or GitHub or doesn't matter. SourceForge, you know, it's like all of these things. We had fun building software. And, you know, it's like that's the thing that I cherish a lot. And this is part of it. At least that's how I read it.

Totally. That's already interesting. And that's fun. That's why we're having like fun discussions. That's what we should be having. Not like heavy, depressing, accusational discussions. You know what I mean? It's like, that's the fun that we need to get back to having.

Totally. That's already interesting. And that's fun. That's why we're having like fun discussions. That's what we should be having. Not like heavy, depressing, accusational discussions. You know what I mean? It's like, that's the fun that we need to get back to having.

Yeah, I think details matter, as you said, and for people that are interested in it, it matters. I think the end result of having more open source in the world, it's much easier to just all agree on. And I think if we're all like,

Yeah, I think details matter, as you said, and for people that are interested in it, it matters. I think the end result of having more open source in the world, it's much easier to just all agree on. And I think if we're all like,

the arc of it is where we're heading i think it's it's goodness right and to be honest like i actually think that like if you build enterprise software that's my recommendation you can pick agpl if you want to go open source and not worry about the cloud stuff as you we discussed i'm more worried about the large language models and ai area which we need to figure out and

the arc of it is where we're heading i think it's it's goodness right and to be honest like i actually think that like if you build enterprise software that's my recommendation you can pick agpl if you want to go open source and not worry about the cloud stuff as you we discussed i'm more worried about the large language models and ai area which we need to figure out and

That's an area that we also need to invest in. And hopefully this podcast also helps push it in the right direction, if that makes sense.

That's an area that we also need to invest in. And hopefully this podcast also helps push it in the right direction, if that makes sense.

I think that people are going to see a significant value in their search applications by embracing semantic search and vector type use case. That's the opportunity. I always like to think positively around the opportunity. And I think the opportunity is huge. If I loved search as a way to liberate your data before, this is like 100x better. And when we...

I think that people are going to see a significant value in their search applications by embracing semantic search and vector type use case. That's the opportunity. I always like to think positively around the opportunity. And I think the opportunity is huge. If I loved search as a way to liberate your data before, this is like 100x better. And when we...

Obviously, we at Elastic and we're a huge contributor to Apache Lucene, which we use. we added HSNW and vector capabilities to these systems years ago, right? Before this whole gen AI happened. But once it happened, obviously the weight of being a great vector databases has increased significantly because the improvements that you have in search capabilities is significant.

Obviously, we at Elastic and we're a huge contributor to Apache Lucene, which we use. we added HSNW and vector capabilities to these systems years ago, right? Before this whole gen AI happened. But once it happened, obviously the weight of being a great vector databases has increased significantly because the improvements that you have in search capabilities is significant.