Shay Banon

So really, the only question is why not in that case, which because if we're not afraid of Amazon calling it back, Elasticsearch, which we are not because we work well together now and they went with OpenSearch and just totally fine. Then I think the question is sometimes like, why not? Sometimes the easy one is why not?

So really, the only question is why not in that case, which because if we're not afraid of Amazon calling it back, Elasticsearch, which we are not because we work well together now and they went with OpenSearch and just totally fine. Then I think the question is sometimes like, why not? Sometimes the easy one is why not?

I also totally believe in the value of open source. As I mentioned, there's so much encapsulated in these two words and so much of it encapsulates who Elastic is as a company with our contribution to open source. Our many open source projects from Logstash and Kibana. Kibana got forked into Grafana and created a whole other company. It's like...

I also totally believe in the value of open source. As I mentioned, there's so much encapsulated in these two words and so much of it encapsulates who Elastic is as a company with our contribution to open source. Our many open source projects from Logstash and Kibana. Kibana got forked into Grafana and created a whole other company. It's like...

There's so much that roots itself back to Elasticsearch. We invest so much in Apache Lucene, which is an amazing story in the open source world and an incredible one. There was always a hole left in our hearts when we took away open source and we just felt that we wanted to fill it, if that makes sense. I don't know. Yeah.

There's so much that roots itself back to Elasticsearch. We invest so much in Apache Lucene, which is an amazing story in the open source world and an incredible one. There was always a hole left in our hearts when we took away open source and we just felt that we wanted to fill it, if that makes sense. I don't know. Yeah.

I think so.

I think so.

I still would like to take back the years that we were not open source. Yeah. It worked out, but not in the way that I would have loved it to work. You know what I mean? Right.

I still would like to take back the years that we were not open source. Yeah. It worked out, but not in the way that I would have loved it to work. You know what I mean? Right.

Yeah. I mean, we had a great story around how to get people on our cloud. We had a great story around like commercial features on prem, like the whole business model that around open source that we, I think we were a big part in building as a company and as a community, you know, with other open source projects like this work, like you don't want that headache.

Yeah. I mean, we had a great story around how to get people on our cloud. We had a great story around like commercial features on prem, like the whole business model that around open source that we, I think we were a big part in building as a company and as a community, you know, with other open source projects like this work, like you don't want that headache.

Under Apache 2, yeah. Under Apache 2, they're allowed to do it. And obviously, as long as we have Apache 2 license, I'm not going to go to Amazon and say it's illegal. Right, because it wasn't.

Under Apache 2, yeah. Under Apache 2, they're allowed to do it. And obviously, as long as we have Apache 2 license, I'm not going to go to Amazon and say it's illegal. Right, because it wasn't.

Yes. So some people say it's great, but it doesn't align with the norms of open source or something along those lines, which is fine. It's still legal to do it. Our case specifically was just around the trademark.

Yes. So some people say it's great, but it doesn't align with the norms of open source or something along those lines, which is fine. It's still legal to do it. Our case specifically was just around the trademark.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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