Shay Banon

I think there's a meta question around if we're going to have really like... It's a question also of how many models are we going to have, especially like LLMs, like large language models that are really expensive to build. If we're going to have five... then maybe it doesn't matter. And people go and say, oh, we know the Lama one. We know the challenge that way.

I think there's a meta question around if we're going to have really like... It's a question also of how many models are we going to have, especially like LLMs, like large language models that are really expensive to build. If we're going to have five... then maybe it doesn't matter. And people go and say, oh, we know the Lama one. We know the challenge that way.

Yeah, they call it open source, but I know, you know, we know the restrictions. If there's 20 or 50 or more specialized models and things like that, that's when I think we really urgently need a common way to understand what is our freedoms and what do we get when we use a specific model. It's really important to understand it in a standardized way, if that makes sense.

Yeah, they call it open source, but I know, you know, we know the restrictions. If there's 20 or 50 or more specialized models and things like that, that's when I think we really urgently need a common way to understand what is our freedoms and what do we get when we use a specific model. It's really important to understand it in a standardized way, if that makes sense.

It can do what we do. It can just AGPL it. And then it's like, if you end up using this LLM, then you need to open source the rest of your infrastructure as a source.

It can do what we do. It can just AGPL it. And then it's like, if you end up using this LLM, then you need to open source the rest of your infrastructure as a source.

Yeah. Ah.

Yeah. Ah.

Obviously, any change that you do is scary. And it's like, the easiest thing to do is not to fight inertia, right? And I won't lie, internally, people were saying, why do we need to change it? People got used to it. Why do we need to go and change to open source? So these decisions are not straightforward. But we really felt like we are an open source company.

Obviously, any change that you do is scary. And it's like, the easiest thing to do is not to fight inertia, right? And I won't lie, internally, people were saying, why do we need to change it? People got used to it. Why do we need to go and change to open source? So these decisions are not straightforward. But we really felt like we are an open source company.

We walk and behave like open source and this is who we are. And this goes all the way back to our value system as we were founded. And yeah, we announced it and it was an amazing experience. I was scared. I was obviously happy about being able to announce it. I was scared that people would twist it because you know how the whole social discussions might happen.

We walk and behave like open source and this is who we are. And this goes all the way back to our value system as we were founded. And yeah, we announced it and it was an amazing experience. I was scared. I was obviously happy about being able to announce it. I was scared that people would twist it because you know how the whole social discussions might happen.

Oh, Elastic is in bad shape or they're choosing open source or something on those lines. And And sometimes people really liked it, but it was just pure joy. The vast majority was just like, this is amazing. Thank you for doing it. Welcome back to open source. Prominent open source people were engaging and appreciative of doing it like Adam and others. So it was great.

Oh, Elastic is in bad shape or they're choosing open source or something on those lines. And And sometimes people really liked it, but it was just pure joy. The vast majority was just like, this is amazing. Thank you for doing it. Welcome back to open source. Prominent open source people were engaging and appreciative of doing it like Adam and others. So it was great.

Obviously, there are still people that try to find the bug in something good, but I think there always are. I try to focus on the fact that this is just a net positive progress for Elastic in bringing back open source. And it's hopefully an even bigger net positive for open source world because hopefully it will convince more companies to do open source versus less.

Obviously, there are still people that try to find the bug in something good, but I think there always are. I try to focus on the fact that this is just a net positive progress for Elastic in bringing back open source. And it's hopefully an even bigger net positive for open source world because hopefully it will convince more companies to do open source versus less.

I think there's a few reasons. The first one is we never stopped behaving like open source, right? All our code is still on GitHub. All of our issues are on GitHub issues, pull requests, reviews, people send us pull requests. You know, it's like never stopped.

I think there's a few reasons. The first one is we never stopped behaving like open source, right? All our code is still on GitHub. All of our issues are on GitHub issues, pull requests, reviews, people send us pull requests. You know, it's like never stopped.

And if you go back to ask yourself why you changed the license, we changed the license because of the trademark, but the trademark is no longer an issue because Amazon changed the license to open source.

And if you go back to ask yourself why you changed the license, we changed the license because of the trademark, but the trademark is no longer an issue because Amazon changed the license to open source.