Shayne Smith

Yeah, yeah.

Gargoyles.

There's something going on with the Catholic Church.

I think that the situation has two more variables.

I'm going to lose these in my head, but we're going to try.

So the first variable being, so they get that experience, and then that experience is also, they're hearing a lot of old stereotypes about Catholics that every Protestant in America is mad about.

Those stereotypes are patently false.

So when they go, they're all worshiping Mary.

And then you look into it, you go, that seems reasonable.

I don't think they're worshiping her at all.

And now that you could just go on chat GPT or whatever and be like, what do Catholics believe?

And then it's like, this is literally the catechism.

And they read it and they go, oh, okay.

Well, so you lied to me about this?

And then their pastor maybe doubles down.

Maybe that sends you to the church.

Maybe he doesn't.

And now you're open to, you know, so you can't lie about us because you're just going to send people to us because we're not afraid to give the info.

So maybe you've got like two, sorry, you said two pillars.

I didn't mean to interrupt you.