Shekhar Natarajan

I don't know if it's cool or not, but like, or like, you know, people start dying around you and you're the only one alive.

I don't know.

Like, I'm just asking what are all the different... It's like these vampire movies, you know, or like sci-fi, where it's like this 3,000-year feud between my family and your family, and I had this lover, and she died.

Or like Philip Pullman's books I love, The Dark Tales.

Well, like, let me tell you... There's the witch, and she has, like, a human lover, and then he gets older, and he's going to die, and then she carries on, Serafina Pekela.

But the cohort of witches live on, and they carry the wisdom of all these other populations that have passed away.

Like...

Who gets to be that central population?

What are their values?

Are they stewards?

Or are they the people that are just going to extract endlessly from the other?

So I'll tell you why even this question came to me.

For two reasons.

And nothing in my life just happens by this thing.

It's just all serendipity.

I have conversations and I'm translating that conversation back to you.

So one of my mentors is a guy called Jim Khat Khat.

And I was telling him, like, you know, because I haven't caught up with him for the last, he's a phenomenal speaker.

He's probably, like, you know, keynote at about, like, 3,000-odd, like, stages.

Very well-known in the industry, like, you know, phenomenal guy.