Shekhar Natarajan

Their performance is better if they went to a different team altogether.

They get reallocated.

Reallocation is happening in corporate settings.

Reallocation is happening in a childbirth because of abuse or whatever it is.

And there is also an app in China, by the way,

where they're actually taking the Alipay's credit score and saying you're no longer eligible to travel or date or have marriage.

And there's a social credit system in one of the states in China where you have to disclose everything and they will decide whether you need to get married or not.

that seems rather horrible.

And we are taking all of the data and creating all of these algorithms and biasing the systems and it is going to be recursive and it is going to make bad decisions.

That is my worry.

So, you know, on the darker side of this, you know, so I've always said that, you know, Orwell was an optimist because he never understood the power of machine learning.

is terrifying, because it just makes those kinds of governments more powerful and more able to control us.

That's about as scary as it can be.

And we have Allegheny County, Pittsburgh, by the way.

It's ugly as hell, but I think that's where

It's up to culture, artists, rebels, tricksters, I mean, to create the conversation that keeps this thing from happening.

I mean, look, that scenario you're saying, I know that it's playing out in many places in the world, and of course that terrifies me.

I grew up in Venezuela, and I saw what happens when a government goes tyrannical.

And...

Right now, I'm living in the Netherlands, which is one of the freest places in the world.