Shekhar Natarajan

Ironically, everybody there goes on their bicycle and has a lot of agency on their bike.

So there's some return to a very analog village life there in a high trust society where there is not that kind of surveillance.

But yeah, no, look, what you're saying terrifies me.

there's no real rebuttal against it.

It's legit.

We just have to, I guess, speak out, right?

antagonistic content that would split people from one another in different groups it upvoted those points around which there was greater consensus and so you can actually depending on the intention and therefore the architecture that you create around it create greater social cohesion and a better cultural condition within which people can thrive using digital technologies and I think one of the things that we're seeing across different parts of the world I don't know how much you've been kind of tapping into this but these quote-unquote Gen Z rebellions

happening when social media platforms have been shut down, but they go to Discord.

Or, for instance, people not using iPhones and Google phones or whatever, they go to mesh networks.

Sold to AI companies.

It's a very swift fairly simple innovation in the law or application of law Anyway, so like we're gonna see different places doing it very very differently You see if you are an example of somebody that makes me think everything's gonna be okay Other people think like you brought to be the policy head of this Oh God, no

No, but you're a public person.

You're out there thinking these thoughts, articulating them so eloquently.

I'm just saying, everything you just said was just spot on and brilliant and was in diametrical parallel to the scenarios that he was painting.

I was listening to you.

I was like, yes.

more like her.

It was to your point about creating cultural conditions and what you were saying also about in service to whom and for what.

But then who gets to decide?

Who gets to decide?