Shekhar Natarajan

I'll grant that maybe I'm spiritually immature, you know, but maybe I just retain a childlike insistence on

on our genius and our poetry.

I love this idea of the truth beyond the literal grid.

The idea that somehow fiction can be more truthful than reality.

You can tell me that objectively and empirically a film is 120 minutes of prerecorded and scripted illusion, but the subjective experience of watching that film can be as real or more real than something that happens in the Euclidean

meat space and altered states of consciousness also hint at time dilation and a kind of presence that seems to go beyond ordinary perception and so yeah I just I agree with everything you're saying about the full range of human experience and still want to insist on alleviating

the kind of suffering that puts you on a deathbed versus like symbolic transformative psychological suffering, which I think we could just emulate.

So no death?

No death.

I mean... But does that also then mean no birth?

Not necessarily.

I mean, you're talking about like overpopulation related issues.

Well, you know, people like Peter Diamandis and Ray Kurzweil will talk about

how overpopulation is a myth and most of the world is empty space and you could fit the entire global population in the state of Texas and there'd still be plenty of empty space.

The issue is distribution of resources, but if you're imagining godlike technologies at exponentially increasing capacities, the idea that we wouldn't be able to

deliver resources, I think, is contextual.

And technology is a resource-liberating mechanism.

And so, again, I can find a reason to stick with my narrative.

That's what makes us human.

We all have a perspective.