Shekhar Natarajan

So we have to think about criminal justice, we have to think about what does it mean from a financial perspective, the psychology of things, how do we think about relationships?

Everything.

Everything needs to be rethought.

But how exciting.

How exciting is the time?

But who's thinking all of that?

Well, us, clearly.

But we need more of this.

We need more of these discussions.

We need more of this education.

We need more of this, like, we need to become the voices that we want the society to look like.

And come join us.

yeah i mean that's why we're doing this that's why we're bringing this conversation out in the world but i think these are very limited these days right you know they're not as much i don't i don't agree i see this in so many different places i think there's also i think that there's another question that's one step beyond that which is when we have access to for instance these long-form podcasts where people are coming together there's always different sorts of small groups where people are having these sorts of conversations what's the next step you can't just be locked in talk there are a lot of these ideas floating around they're not necessarily new

what I think needs to happen next is then some form of citizen assembly or some form of ways of bringing people together so their voices can be heard so we can have these discussions in greater depth and then that can inform

regulation.

It can inform the way that we structure our educational systems and change our political systems.

That's the next step.

Conversation there is in abundance.

I find it everywhere.

Every single place I talk or place that I'm invited to go listen to someone else talk, it's there.