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Shelley Rigger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
403 total appearances

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The many lives of Taiwan

I think what I am learning as I get older is that nothing is permanent.

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The many lives of Taiwan

And that what we are trying to do in international relations is to maintain a kind of dynamic stability as long as possible, while larger forces are moving the ground underneath us.

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The many lives of Taiwan

So I've always tried to impress upon my students in my international relations classes, the bias of a policymaker in the international realm is always to do nothing, to do as little as possible to just prevent things from getting worse.

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The many lives of Taiwan

That's so unsatisfying and frustrating, but it is the wisdom of policy.

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The many lives of Taiwan

the international policymaker to understand that almost anything you do will have unintended consequences that will make the situation worse.

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The many lives of Taiwan

So you just want to do as little as you can to hold things in that kind of dynamic tension.

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The many lives of Taiwan

I think the essence of the disagreement between Taiwan and especially the Taiwanese people and the PRC government, so the Chinese government, at the heart of that failure to find a shared ground

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The many lives of Taiwan

is that for the Chinese Communist Party leadership, and this is certainly an idea that predates them, you know, this was also Chiang Kai-shek's idea, and they have inculcated this idea in the minds of many people in mainland China.

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The many lives of Taiwan

Their concept of what constitutes a nation is rooted in history.

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The many lives of Taiwan

The actual history of states evolving over generations and also the kind of human history of we are a civilization and our civilization has certain attributes that exist within people who are alive at any given moment.

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The many lives of Taiwan

And so being attached to that thing

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The many lives of Taiwan

historically, ancestrally, culturally, that thing being China, means that you are and should be, and in the future must be more fully, a part of China.

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The many lives of Taiwan

So in mainland China, the idea is Taiwan used to be part of the Qing Dynasty.

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The many lives of Taiwan

We are the current embodiment of what Qing Dynasty was embodying back then.

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The many lives of Taiwan

So I need, we in the PRC need for Taiwan to come under our flag one way or another, sooner or later.

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The many lives of Taiwan

In Taiwan, the concept of the state, right, is consent to the governed.

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The many lives of Taiwan

They bought into classical liberalism sometime in between about 1920 and 1990, and they just don't see why.

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The many lives of Taiwan

Just because our ancestors lived in China, we got to be part of the PRC?

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The many lives of Taiwan

It's not a meaningful understanding of political identity in Taiwan.

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The many lives of Taiwan

So that disagreement leaves them with very little common ground for some kind of compromise that satisfies both sides.