Sheriff Mark Lamb

Well, because that's what used to happen.

No, that's not what we're doing here.

You need to trust us.

And we had to push that trust and we had to earn it on the captain level.

We had to earn it on the lieutenant level.

Probably the lieutenants was the hardest level for us to gain.

The guys on the line level, we did things like saying, hey, you don't have to cover your tattoos.

As long as they're not obscene, we're good.

You can wear facial hair.

We started to make these little adjustments so we started getting the support of the line level guys.

Same with the sergeants.

We struggled with the lieutenants.

The messaging was, we were delivering the messaging and it was getting jacked up between captains and sergeants.

So lieutenants were, so we had to earn their trust.

Took about two, three years.

And after that, once they realized, and we proved time and time again, if you're in a shooting or you rough somebody up, that we had their back.

That they were part of a family.

And not in a way that we were not condoning.

If you broke the law, then we're going to hold you accountable.

But in a way that said, you did your job.