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Shirley Turner

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438 total appearances

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Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

now given the situation you would think zachary would be removed from his mother's care or perhaps given to the bagby's after all his mother was a cold-blooded killer however that wasn't the case instead the worker had a parent coach arranged to assist shirley the parent coach visited for four hours over the next 14 days completely free of charge for shirley

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

ended up going to family court where the bagby's begged to have two one-hour weekly visits with zachary and no direct contact with shirley shirley however wanted only one hour-long visit a week that was fully supervised and demanded that there be a bag and body search of kate and david as if they were going to pull out a weapon and hurt him

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

ended up going to family court where the bagby's begged to have two one-hour weekly visits with zachary and no direct contact with shirley shirley however wanted only one hour-long visit a week that was fully supervised and demanded that there be a bag and body search of kate and david as if they were going to pull out a weapon and hurt him

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

ended up going to family court where the bagby's begged to have two one-hour weekly visits with zachary and no direct contact with shirley shirley however wanted only one hour-long visit a week that was fully supervised and demanded that there be a bag and body search of kate and david as if they were going to pull out a weapon and hurt him

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

In addition, Shirley wanted taxi service to be covered for her and Zachary on visitation days. Her requests were ridiculous, but of course, David and Kate agreed. They were desperate to see their grandson, even if it meant catering to Shirley's insane demands.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

In addition, Shirley wanted taxi service to be covered for her and Zachary on visitation days. Her requests were ridiculous, but of course, David and Kate agreed. They were desperate to see their grandson, even if it meant catering to Shirley's insane demands.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

In addition, Shirley wanted taxi service to be covered for her and Zachary on visitation days. Her requests were ridiculous, but of course, David and Kate agreed. They were desperate to see their grandson, even if it meant catering to Shirley's insane demands.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

On top of that, Kate and David routinely took care of Shirley's 12-year-old daughter. Surprisingly, from November to January, both Shirley and the country of Canada let the 12-year-old live by herself in Shirley's old apartment. Yes, you heard that correctly. A 12-year-old was left to their own devices.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

On top of that, Kate and David routinely took care of Shirley's 12-year-old daughter. Surprisingly, from November to January, both Shirley and the country of Canada let the 12-year-old live by herself in Shirley's old apartment. Yes, you heard that correctly. A 12-year-old was left to their own devices.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

On top of that, Kate and David routinely took care of Shirley's 12-year-old daughter. Surprisingly, from November to January, both Shirley and the country of Canada let the 12-year-old live by herself in Shirley's old apartment. Yes, you heard that correctly. A 12-year-old was left to their own devices.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

This was because Shirley argued that her daughter had appropriate supervision, which was occasional visits from her older brother and pop-in visits from her neighbors upstairs. Of course, the social workers were required to check in on the 12-year-old, yet they only made two home visits in that two-month period.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

This was because Shirley argued that her daughter had appropriate supervision, which was occasional visits from her older brother and pop-in visits from her neighbors upstairs. Of course, the social workers were required to check in on the 12-year-old, yet they only made two home visits in that two-month period.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

This was because Shirley argued that her daughter had appropriate supervision, which was occasional visits from her older brother and pop-in visits from her neighbors upstairs. Of course, the social workers were required to check in on the 12-year-old, yet they only made two home visits in that two-month period.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

Despite Shirley's daughter routinely being out of groceries, unkempt, and unable to be contacted, the social workers didn't seem concerned. In fact, on December 11th, they even terminated her counseling sessions, stating that she had good coping skills.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

Despite Shirley's daughter routinely being out of groceries, unkempt, and unable to be contacted, the social workers didn't seem concerned. In fact, on December 11th, they even terminated her counseling sessions, stating that she had good coping skills.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

Despite Shirley's daughter routinely being out of groceries, unkempt, and unable to be contacted, the social workers didn't seem concerned. In fact, on December 11th, they even terminated her counseling sessions, stating that she had good coping skills.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

Desperate for some kind of escape and some connection to Andrew, Kate and David decided to go to the movies to clear their heads. The movies had always been a comfort in times of trouble for their family, ever since Andrew was a little boy acting in them and using them as a fun excuse to cuss in front of his parents.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

Desperate for some kind of escape and some connection to Andrew, Kate and David decided to go to the movies to clear their heads. The movies had always been a comfort in times of trouble for their family, ever since Andrew was a little boy acting in them and using them as a fun excuse to cuss in front of his parents.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

Desperate for some kind of escape and some connection to Andrew, Kate and David decided to go to the movies to clear their heads. The movies had always been a comfort in times of trouble for their family, ever since Andrew was a little boy acting in them and using them as a fun excuse to cuss in front of his parents.

Murder In America
EP. 180 : PENNSYLVANIA - The "Dear Zachary" Case

So on that day, after giving Zachary back to Shirley, they went to the movies to watch The Lord of the Rings The Two Towers. Andrew had always loved The Lord of the Rings books growing up, so the movie seemed fitting. Now, this movie, if you haven't seen it, is actually about a battle between good and evil.