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Chapter 1: What happened in the early 2000s in Pennsylvania?
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It's been said that becoming a grandparent is one of life's greatest joys. And in the early 2000s, David and Kate Bagby were learning this very truth. The birth of their grandson Zachary completely changed their lives. And on this day in particular, they watched in awe as the one-year-old playfully splashed in the water at their community pool.
For most families, it would have been the perfect afternoon. You have baby Zachary, his doting grandparents, and Zachary's mom, Shirley Turner. Three generations of family working and laughing together is always a beautiful thing. But there was a dark cloud that loomed over this joyous occasion.
As Shirley was splashing around in the water with her son, David and Kate couldn't help but feel a deep hatred for her because about a year prior, Shirley had murdered their son, Zachary's father, Andrew Bagby. And despite facing murder charges, Shirley still somehow had custody of Zachary. David and Kate loved their grandson more than anything in this world.
He was the last piece of their son that they had on this earth. So on this day, they pushed their hatred aside and put a smile on their face. Because if they wanted to protect Zachary, preserve their son's legacy, and keep their family together, they had to play nice with their son's killer. This case is truly one of the most frustrating and heartbreaking stories I've ever heard.
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Chapter 2: Who were David and Kate Bagby?
It was their first time talking that day, though it would be far, far from their last. Kate claims that she introduced herself and told Shirley that Andrew wasn't home, but Shirley didn't seem to mind. She hardly drew a breath as she launched into her own life story and talked to Kate for over an hour. Having never met her, Kate was shocked and didn't exactly know how to leave the conversation.
After eventually hanging up, she told David, who was curious about Andrew's new girlfriend, she seems nice enough, but she's hard to end a conversation with. But little did Kate know, this would soon become a habit for Shirley. Before long, Shirley was calling them all the time, just to talk to Andrew's parents, and she would keep them on the phone for hours at a time as she rambled.
Eventually, they started coming up with excuses for why they were hanging up, and they even began to screen their calls so that they could avoid Shirley's long rants. But Kate and David never imagined that Shirley was dangerous. Sure, she was a little annoying, but in the end, I'm sure they were thankful that their son's girlfriend liked them enough to even want to talk to them.
Shirley was also nice, charming, and intelligent. And more importantly, they could tell that she really loved their son, which is all they could have ever wanted for him.
Now in the beginning of relationships, people tend to be on their best behavior. They show all of their good cards, tucking the bad cards away for as long as they possibly can. So in the beginning, Andrew didn't see Shirley's red flags. However, slowly over time, she began to show her true colors. Shirley Turner was obsessive.
and jealous and when she wasn't happy she made it everyone's business over time andrew's friends couldn't stand to be around her but at the end of the day they loved andrew and they had to support him especially because in may of 2000 andrew completed a huge life accomplishment He graduated from medical school.
After years of dedication and hard work, and being so far away from his friends and family, he had finally made a life and career for himself. Following the graduation ceremony, Andrew and his friends celebrated his accomplishment by throwing him some parties. And Shirley was right there by his side. Andrew's ex-fiancee, Heather, was also at these parties.
Now, like we mentioned, even though they called off their engagement, the two stayed really good friends throughout the years. So, of course, she was going to be there to celebrate his graduation. Not to mention, by this point, Heather was in a serious relationship with someone else, so she was definitely no threat to Andrew and Shirley's relationship. But Shirley didn't see it that way.
In fact, during the graduation party, Shirley actually brought Heather into a separate room and angrily told her, quote, you can try all you want, but he doesn't want you. He wants me. As you can imagine, Heather was dumbfounded. She was madly in love with her own partner at the time, and she had no romantic interest in Andrew whatsoever.
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