Shiv Malik

But it is difficult.

And Andrew's not wrong that there is there.

It's trade off.

And as I said, it's not an easy one to make.

But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be made.

I think other people could use it as a model, yeah, to, again, hopefully to emulate around the country, around the world.

Why not?

Would you live there?

Yeah, 100%.

I absolutely want to live there.

I need, I want a place to live where my, if you want, in a really selfish way, my friends and family can also live there.

And we don't have to be stressed about having to move or whether we've got enough space for kids or, you know, whether we can afford the mortgage or the rent and a community which can just be stable.

It's actually many of the things which people...

who object to other housing have already and they feel that they would lose it, right?

I'm just someone who is desperate to solve the problems of my generation, and I have been for 15 years, and I'm tired of talking about it.

I'm tired of being some Cassandra-like figure.

you know kind of right but then ultimately kind of you know the problems that we talk about just aren't getting resolved this can't go on any longer it can't it just we have to repair the social contract in this country we have to get this country back on its feet so that's the guy that i am that's the guy who by the way my my you know there are again hundreds of supporters on this but also a co-founder who has his own backstory in doing exactly the same thing

So that's who ultimately we are.

And we're going to get it done.

Look, I think this will happen.