Shiv Malik

And everyone has to engage.

The inverse of people saying, I get a right to say no because I live here.

And by the way, Andrew's wrong.

170,000 people in West Suffolk, lots of them actually support this.

For a variety of reasons.

And he's right.

They don't live in that particular area.

But as soon as you step outside, they realise what the benefits are for homes, for jobs, for affordable housing, for the prospects for their children, for the transport, for just the general... I mean, for just making an interesting place that they can actually realise they've got a future in, right?

For all those reasons that we have plenty of supporters.

But you're right.

It's...

It's hard at the end of the day to deal with people's emotions.

And it's on me and the other hundreds of people who support Forest City and actually have worked on this pro bono in many ways.

Yeah, we've got some amazing, amazing supporters.

Sir Tim Smith, who did the Eden Project.

We've got cross-party support from lords and baronesses, etc., etc.

So, you know, we've got lots of supporters for sure.

But look, all of this is difficult.

It's not, as I said earlier, it's not easy.

If it was easy, you know, we'd maybe be doing it all the time because it makes economic and rational sense.