Shruti Gandhi

And so that was at that time, I didn't know that it was

because the top is very different and it should change.

But when I started thinking more and more about it, as I got into venture after that, to learn more about it, I realized that the top needs to change.

And I just knew that I was a person to make that happen because I had the right background as an engineer, as a founder, and then as an investor at the time to make this happen.

But I just thought it was like a very much of a later in the stage, retire into the job kind of a game.

I was wrong.

We need people like me, more people like me in the market today.

But that's why I'm glad I did it at the time.

But I thought I would have been doing this maybe like in my, I don't know, late 40s or something.

I don't understand the question.

I mean...

Private equity funds by nature come later.

You're starting out a company at this stage, which is two people in a garage and

you know, just hustling at it and trying to figure out if this is a large problem, if we want to go talk to customers.

I mean, that's like building things from ground up.

It's like the same thing as why invest in Uber at the early stages versus at the... Got it.

Yeah, I think I wouldn't be doing it otherwise.

It is helping founders at the earliest stages of inception of their ideas to make it a real company.

No, actually the rounds are called pre-seed these days, which means their founders are raising anywhere from half a million to a few million dollars.

So we come in anywhere owning 8 to 10% at the, at that stage.