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Shyam Sankar

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I think we do not yet have clarity of the threat amongst the American people. The national security community is not confused. They understand it is the priority threat. And I think part of this might just come down to our media and our culture. What was the last movie you saw that showed America is the good guy and the CCP is the bad guy?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

I think we do not yet have clarity of the threat amongst the American people. The national security community is not confused. They understand it is the priority threat. And I think part of this might just come down to our media and our culture. What was the last movie you saw that showed America is the good guy and the CCP is the bad guy?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

You know, when I was a child, even the Worldwide Wrestling Federation had the Iron Shake. We had the Iranians as the back, that was the heel, right? There was a USSR heel. We had a very clear sense of who our adversaries were and that we were competing every day.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

You know, when I was a child, even the Worldwide Wrestling Federation had the Iron Shake. We had the Iranians as the back, that was the heel, right? There was a USSR heel. We had a very clear sense of who our adversaries were and that we were competing every day.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

You know, when I was a child, even the Worldwide Wrestling Federation had the Iron Shake. We had the Iranians as the back, that was the heel, right? There was a USSR heel. We had a very clear sense of who our adversaries were and that we were competing every day.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

If you look at the essential Chinese propaganda, which we kind of imposed on ourselves with their ascendancy into the World Trade Organization, it's taken two forms. One is we're so weak, there's nothing to worry about here. We're so weak. The other is we've already won. There's nothing to worry about here because you've already lost the competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

If you look at the essential Chinese propaganda, which we kind of imposed on ourselves with their ascendancy into the World Trade Organization, it's taken two forms. One is we're so weak, there's nothing to worry about here. We're so weak. The other is we've already won. There's nothing to worry about here because you've already lost the competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

If you look at the essential Chinese propaganda, which we kind of imposed on ourselves with their ascendancy into the World Trade Organization, it's taken two forms. One is we're so weak, there's nothing to worry about here. We're so weak. The other is we've already won. There's nothing to worry about here because you've already lost the competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But I think these two lines of propaganda, even though they seem contradictory, they have one thing in common, which is saying we're not competing because either we're irrelevant or we've already won. But it was designed to obfuscate the fact that we are competing every single day and viciously. And that's the clarity that we need as the American people to realize that we're in a competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But I think these two lines of propaganda, even though they seem contradictory, they have one thing in common, which is saying we're not competing because either we're irrelevant or we've already won. But it was designed to obfuscate the fact that we are competing every single day and viciously. And that's the clarity that we need as the American people to realize that we're in a competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But I think these two lines of propaganda, even though they seem contradictory, they have one thing in common, which is saying we're not competing because either we're irrelevant or we've already won. But it was designed to obfuscate the fact that we are competing every single day and viciously. And that's the clarity that we need as the American people to realize that we're in a competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Today, it's an economic competition. Let's do everything we can to make sure it remains only an economic competition that requires us to invest in deterrence. The Chinese were kind of surprised that we did nothing when they militarized the Spratly Islands after telling us to our face that they were not going to do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Today, it's an economic competition. Let's do everything we can to make sure it remains only an economic competition that requires us to invest in deterrence. The Chinese were kind of surprised that we did nothing when they militarized the Spratly Islands after telling us to our face that they were not going to do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Today, it's an economic competition. Let's do everything we can to make sure it remains only an economic competition that requires us to invest in deterrence. The Chinese were kind of surprised that we did nothing when they militarized the Spratly Islands after telling us to our face that they were not going to do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And this is the part where I think their miscalculus comes in because the sort of Midwestern, we positive some, we're fair people. You know, we seek peace. So we'll take you at your word and we'll treat you well. But at some point, you'll break that. And then, you know, as one admiral once told me, then the American OODA loop comes out, you know, observe, overreact, destroy, apologize.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And this is the part where I think their miscalculus comes in because the sort of Midwestern, we positive some, we're fair people. You know, we seek peace. So we'll take you at your word and we'll treat you well. But at some point, you'll break that. And then, you know, as one admiral once told me, then the American OODA loop comes out, you know, observe, overreact, destroy, apologize.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And this is the part where I think their miscalculus comes in because the sort of Midwestern, we positive some, we're fair people. You know, we seek peace. So we'll take you at your word and we'll treat you well. But at some point, you'll break that. And then, you know, as one admiral once told me, then the American OODA loop comes out, you know, observe, overreact, destroy, apologize.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And so how do we... how do we manage this so that we are actually conveying and managing the threat appropriately?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And so how do we... how do we manage this so that we are actually conveying and managing the threat appropriately?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And so how do we... how do we manage this so that we are actually conveying and managing the threat appropriately?