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Shyam Sankar

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

What lessons can we take about what it's going to take to actually ramp up the industrial base as a consequence? The lesson from that is that we got it wrong. We thought the stockpile was the deterrent. If we could go to our adversaries and say, look at how much stuff we have sitting on the stock they'd be scared. It's not. The deterrent is your ability to produce the stockpile.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

What lessons can we take about what it's going to take to actually ramp up the industrial base as a consequence? The lesson from that is that we got it wrong. We thought the stockpile was the deterrent. If we could go to our adversaries and say, look at how much stuff we have sitting on the stock they'd be scared. It's not. The deterrent is your ability to produce the stockpile.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Yeah. And so we should never have cut down to minimum rate production, all these ideas that were really born out of an economic fantasy that we could spend way less and still have as much security. Look, I think it's reasonable for a democracy to debate. Like, how much do we want to spend? but to believe you're not trading off security.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Yeah. And so we should never have cut down to minimum rate production, all these ideas that were really born out of an economic fantasy that we could spend way less and still have as much security. Look, I think it's reasonable for a democracy to debate. Like, how much do we want to spend? but to believe you're not trading off security.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Yeah. And so we should never have cut down to minimum rate production, all these ideas that were really born out of an economic fantasy that we could spend way less and still have as much security. Look, I think it's reasonable for a democracy to debate. Like, how much do we want to spend? but to believe you're not trading off security.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Like, we have to just account for all the trade-offs appropriately. And I think if we all understood, like, actually, we're going to change our spending profile, and it's going to mean that we're much less secure, we may have made different decisions along the way. So we shouldn't, you know, that is a hard-earned lesson that the production, not the stockpile, is a deterrent. We shouldn't forget it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Like, we have to just account for all the trade-offs appropriately. And I think if we all understood, like, actually, we're going to change our spending profile, and it's going to mean that we're much less secure, we may have made different decisions along the way. So we shouldn't, you know, that is a hard-earned lesson that the production, not the stockpile, is a deterrent. We shouldn't forget it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Like, we have to just account for all the trade-offs appropriately. And I think if we all understood, like, actually, we're going to change our spending profile, and it's going to mean that we're much less secure, we may have made different decisions along the way. So we shouldn't, you know, that is a hard-earned lesson that the production, not the stockpile, is a deterrent. We shouldn't forget it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it should shape everything. That's why you need something like an end rule. You need to be able to make 10,000 of these things, not 100. And when you think in your mind, oh, I'm only going to need 100, you start having all the bells and whistles. Like, how do we make this thing super exquisite, super fancy? It needs to do all these things.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it should shape everything. That's why you need something like an end rule. You need to be able to make 10,000 of these things, not 100. And when you think in your mind, oh, I'm only going to need 100, you start having all the bells and whistles. Like, how do we make this thing super exquisite, super fancy? It needs to do all these things.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it should shape everything. That's why you need something like an end rule. You need to be able to make 10,000 of these things, not 100. And when you think in your mind, oh, I'm only going to need 100, you start having all the bells and whistles. Like, how do we make this thing super exquisite, super fancy? It needs to do all these things.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And I'm only going to have a few of them, so let's make it like a Swiss Army knife that can do everything. And then it turns out it takes eight years to build one of them, and they're ungodly expensive. And then in the moment of need, you realize, I actually need 10,000 of these. And so when you start realizing those trade-offs, like, how can we cut production time down to one-fifth.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And I'm only going to have a few of them, so let's make it like a Swiss Army knife that can do everything. And then it turns out it takes eight years to build one of them, and they're ungodly expensive. And then in the moment of need, you realize, I actually need 10,000 of these. And so when you start realizing those trade-offs, like, how can we cut production time down to one-fifth.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And I'm only going to have a few of them, so let's make it like a Swiss Army knife that can do everything. And then it turns out it takes eight years to build one of them, and they're ungodly expensive. And then in the moment of need, you realize, I actually need 10,000 of these. And so when you start realizing those trade-offs, like, how can we cut production time down to one-fifth.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It should take 20% as long to build these things. They should be affordable so we can be able to build 100 times as many as we would historically have built. And now we're back to deterrent.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It should take 20% as long to build these things. They should be affordable so we can be able to build 100 times as many as we would historically have built. And now we're back to deterrent.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It should take 20% as long to build these things. They should be affordable so we can be able to build 100 times as many as we would historically have built. And now we're back to deterrent.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.