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Shyam Sankar

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But, you know, our technology enabled that to happen machine to machine in a way that before they could get the drone out of their garage, they were gone. Wow.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

But, you know, our technology enabled that to happen machine to machine in a way that before they could get the drone out of their garage, they were gone. Wow.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Yeah. Well, yeah, at this point, so we do much more than counterterrorism, as you're pointing out. The business, there's two sides of it. There's the government side and the commercial side. OK. And it's about 50-50. which is unusual, I think, for reasons we'll maybe get into later. But the commercial side, it's 50 different industries, energy and mining, insurance, pharmaceuticals.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Yeah. Well, yeah, at this point, so we do much more than counterterrorism, as you're pointing out. The business, there's two sides of it. There's the government side and the commercial side. OK. And it's about 50-50. which is unusual, I think, for reasons we'll maybe get into later. But the commercial side, it's 50 different industries, energy and mining, insurance, pharmaceuticals.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

Yeah. Well, yeah, at this point, so we do much more than counterterrorism, as you're pointing out. The business, there's two sides of it. There's the government side and the commercial side. OK. And it's about 50-50. which is unusual, I think, for reasons we'll maybe get into later. But the commercial side, it's 50 different industries, energy and mining, insurance, pharmaceuticals.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And the government side, most of what we're well known for is defense and intelligence. Absolutely, that's two-thirds of the business. But also health, the IRS, tax fraud, Justice Department, helping these organizations run themselves better. And what the technology really does, you can think about it as like an operating system for an organization. It allows you to actually see yourself.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And the government side, most of what we're well known for is defense and intelligence. Absolutely, that's two-thirds of the business. But also health, the IRS, tax fraud, Justice Department, helping these organizations run themselves better. And what the technology really does, you can think about it as like an operating system for an organization. It allows you to actually see yourself.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And the government side, most of what we're well known for is defense and intelligence. Absolutely, that's two-thirds of the business. But also health, the IRS, tax fraud, Justice Department, helping these organizations run themselves better. And what the technology really does, you can think about it as like an operating system for an organization. It allows you to actually see yourself.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's shocking how hard this is. How do I have access to all of the data that's in my enterprise in a way that I as a human think about it? I as the principal, not just the human, but I as the principal, like what's my model for this? What are the questions I want to ask? Simple example, when Rocket Man was rattling his saber in 2017,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's shocking how hard this is. How do I have access to all of the data that's in my enterprise in a way that I as a human think about it? I as the principal, not just the human, but I as the principal, like what's my model for this? What are the questions I want to ask? Simple example, when Rocket Man was rattling his saber in 2017,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's shocking how hard this is. How do I have access to all of the data that's in my enterprise in a way that I as a human think about it? I as the principal, not just the human, but I as the principal, like what's my model for this? What are the questions I want to ask? Simple example, when Rocket Man was rattling his saber in 2017,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

In North Korea, the Army wanted to answer the question, how many tanks are there in the Army? That is a three-week data call. Are you serious? It takes three weeks to get an inventory? Until we got involved, it took three weeks to answer that question. Because there is no canonical representation of a tank. And what do you mean by tank? Do you mean the ones that are ready or not ready?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

In North Korea, the Army wanted to answer the question, how many tanks are there in the Army? That is a three-week data call. Are you serious? It takes three weeks to get an inventory? Until we got involved, it took three weeks to answer that question. Because there is no canonical representation of a tank. And what do you mean by tank? Do you mean the ones that are ready or not ready?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

In North Korea, the Army wanted to answer the question, how many tanks are there in the Army? That is a three-week data call. Are you serious? It takes three weeks to get an inventory? Until we got involved, it took three weeks to answer that question. Because there is no canonical representation of a tank. And what do you mean by tank? Do you mean the ones that are ready or not ready?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

So the way you would do it is you would send down the data call to all of the units. They'd go check out the motor pool. They'd come back with the answer. And so there's no living, breathing, canonical record that continues to flow through this. We've built these systems. The army is older than the country. We've built these systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

So the way you would do it is you would send down the data call to all of the units. They'd go check out the motor pool. They'd come back with the answer. And so there's no living, breathing, canonical record that continues to flow through this. We've built these systems. The army is older than the country. We've built these systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

So the way you would do it is you would send down the data call to all of the units. They'd go check out the motor pool. They'd come back with the answer. And so there's no living, breathing, canonical record that continues to flow through this. We've built these systems. The army is older than the country. We've built these systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's like archeology when you go back there and try to look at this. It's not how you would do it today, but that's our extant reality. We have to deal with this messiness. Sometimes the cynical way to think about Palantir is it took something as sexy as James Bond to motivate engineers to work on a problem as boring as data integration. But that is the starting point.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's like archeology when you go back there and try to look at this. It's not how you would do it today, but that's our extant reality. We have to deal with this messiness. Sometimes the cynical way to think about Palantir is it took something as sexy as James Bond to motivate engineers to work on a problem as boring as data integration. But that is the starting point.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

It's like archeology when you go back there and try to look at this. It's not how you would do it today, but that's our extant reality. We have to deal with this messiness. Sometimes the cynical way to think about Palantir is it took something as sexy as James Bond to motivate engineers to work on a problem as boring as data integration. But that is the starting point.