Sian Pattenden
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Podcast Appearances
You have to be a bit more like us.
Yeah, very snooty.
It's really snooty.
Yeah.
But she's also not playing a game in terms of consumerism.
If you think about it, though, I think magazines usually are there to sell advertising.
I mean, yeah, we'll have a culture section, but also we need to put this in for so-and-so and so-and-so.
Her consumerism is drugs.
Her love affair is with drugs.
It's not with fashion.
It's not with, you know, Brad Pitt or whoever she's meant to like.
She is not operating.
She is a true outsider.
She's not operating in that system.
So when you do that, this is underground writing then suddenly gone mainstream.
People would have been totally affronted by the fact that she was successful on this.
Because she's really, really not playing the game here and saying that's why it's existential as well.
She is not behaving as she should do.
That's what I was going to say.
We haven't mentioned the pharmaceutical industry, which we should do even in a breath.