Simon MacDonald

I love the first portion of the book.

I've read both of her autobiographies in Living History and the more recent one, What Happened?

And I just have a real, I'm just really intrigued by Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton as this sort of power political couple.

And I thought it was, I was absolutely enamored by Curtis and Field's ability to just sort of reenact those early years of Hillary's life.

I was absolutely captivated.

I certainly didn't feel it was caricatured, but I do think certain elements were sort of whisked over, obviously, because this isn't an autobiography in which Sittenfeld doesn't want to sit the author or marinate in these sort of duller passages of Hilary's life.

But I really thought that was very true to what I'd read about Hilary in the books that she'd written about her own life, just sort of sped along a little bit for the sake of the narrative momentum.

I just think it's a brilliant book.

It's a brilliant portrait of an amazing person.

Curtis has done an amazing job, yeah, humanising someone that we're not often given a chance to sort of warm up to.

Now, Books, Books, Books.

What's that a reference to?

Thanks so much for asking, Cassie.

It's a podcast in which I interview excellent Australian and international writers about their new books.

And the idea came about

as the darkness descended on us and as, like all of us, I received all the emails cancelling all my speaking engagements and it occurred to me that it was a very tough time for writers who had a new book coming out and they were missing out on a lot of promotional opportunities and the idea was to give them a new platform in which to promote their books.

So I've had four episodes so far and I'm really enjoying it.

I hope they are as well.

She is, but she doesn't necessarily see herself that way.

All of her life when she's tried to have friendships with men, she's basically been told that they don't think of her romantically.